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Remove user validation?
Hulnu
Trackback URL  Thursday, Dec 31, 2009 19:18
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I think an option to remove user validation on registering would be a nice addition to the software.

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Liam
Friday, Jan 01, 2010 13:46 | Trackback URL
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I have a feeling that somewhere along the line we'll be adding multiple validation methods, such as confirm via Email, admin verification, or no verification... No idea when though.




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Prentice
Friday, Jan 01, 2010 14:34 | Trackback URL
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1.3?


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Caleyjag
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 00:05 | Trackback URL
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You really want a situation of allowing people to register with no validation?

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James
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 13:49 | Trackback URL
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I think the point is having the option to allow no validation, it's up to the administrator of course. I think, however, in reality that people wouldn't use that option, except people who have server issues (where they can't send mail etc) and so they either need admin approval (which is time consuming on large boards) or no validation, which may or may not suit them.

I think all in all we'll have the other options, and not the 'no validation' one.


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Caleyjag
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 13:56 | Trackback URL
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It makes much more sense. I agree with having more options, but there are times when you've got to draw a line and not allow normal users the opportunity to make their boards less secure. There should always be a default security level that no-one is allowed to go below.

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James
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 14:17 | Trackback URL
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Good summing up there

James


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AskAlex
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 20:35 | Trackback URL
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What about the people who can't send mail through their servers,should they be left in the dark? I think you should at least give the admin/the owner of his/her site the option to remove validation,after all it is their site.Every major bulletin board has this option.


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James
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 21:08 | Trackback URL
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I know what you mean. Perhaps, we could have it as an option, but when you click on submit/OK etc, they're taken to an info page with a warning on the security of doing so, a list of known compatible free/paid hosts, and things like that, perhaps links to some enhanced anti-spam modules.

James


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Hulnu
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 22:58 | Trackback URL
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James Trackback URL

I know what you mean. Perhaps, we could have it as an option, but when you click on submit/OK etc, they're taken to an info page with a warning on the security of doing so, a list of known compatible free/paid hosts, and things like that, perhaps links to some enhanced anti-spam modules.

James


Indeed, I always have it disabled on any forum I own or work upon. People don't like having to check there emails for links when registration only takes seconds. Plus if the board gets spammed it takes seconds to clean it up.

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James
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 23:19 | Trackback URL
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I know what you mean. Perhaps, we could have it as an option, but when you click on submit/OK etc, they're taken to an info page with a warning on the security of doing so, a list of known compatible free/paid hosts, and things like that, perhaps links to some enhanced anti-spam modules.

James


Indeed, I always have it disabled on any forum I own or work upon. People don't like having to check there emails for links when registration only takes seconds. Plus if the board gets spammed it takes seconds to clean it up.


I disagree with the 'seconds' comment - I'm a moderator on a board which gets spammed frequently - the admin has finally enabled moderation for new users, and disabled links in those first few messages. They have to be manually approved now, but even so, nearly 90% of the messages are spam - it's appalling really.

So, no, it doesn't always take seconds to clear up, but hopefully we can counterbalance this in NovaBoard by allowing people, if they explicitly disable verification, to quickly mop up the mess through enhanced moderation features, similar to the (ajax?) features in vB.

I have mentioned to him about NovaBoard but he's already got licenses for vB etc.

James


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Caleyjag
Saturday, Jan 02, 2010 23:26 | Trackback URL
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NovaBoard already has "CASPIAN", a built in SPAM-catching system (you can't turn it on or off). It's possibly the best spam-catching system out there (out of the box).

It's a good system that'll catch human spammers too, not just the bots that register and plague the boards.

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James
Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 00:07 | Trackback URL
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I've been meaning to ask you about CASPIAN - what's the web address for it? I can't find anything on Google.

James


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Putzy
Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 12:25 | Trackback URL
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There isn't one. It is INSIDE NovaBoard. Have a look at the source and you'll see it.


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James
Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 14:11 | Trackback URL
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What I mean is where was the code originally from? Unless Dave developed it himself it must be somewhere. Just interested that's all :-)


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Caleyjag
Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 14:45 | Trackback URL
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I developed the method myself. Umm.. kind of like most of NovaBoard

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James
Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 16:19 | Trackback URL
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Fair enough ;-)


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4J2
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 21:13 | Trackback URL
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Please,I want to install NovaBoard forum, but mu host isn't supporting "send mail" function, so users cannot register. How can I manually remove validation? What should I change?

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James
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 21:35 | Trackback URL
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Well the main advice is to use one that does, otherwise you can at least temporarily manually validate members - browse through your admin cp and find them. Just tick the box and save it.

I'm sure there is a way so bear with us!


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Jonny
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010 18:30 | Trackback URL
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Please,I want to install NovaBoard forum, but mu host isn't supporting "send mail" function, so users cannot register. How can I manually remove validation? What should I change?

  • Open includes/pages/register.php
  • Find:
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    mysql_query("INSERT INTO {$db_prefix}members (name, password, email, role, register_date, password_time, pass_salt) VALUES ('$name', '$password', '$email', '3', '$register_date', '$register_date', '$salt')");

  • Change to:
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    mysql_query("INSERT INTO {$db_prefix}members (name, password, email, role, register_date, password_time, pass_salt, verified) VALUES ('$name', '$password', '$email', '3', '$register_date', '$register_date', '$salt', 1)");

  • Find:
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    mail($outgoing$subject$message$from);

  • Change to:
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    //mail($outgoing, $subject, $message, $from);

  • Save & close the file







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4J2
Thursday, Jan 14, 2010 09:56 | Trackback URL
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Thank you . I will try this...
It's work!Thank you!

Last edited by: 4J2 - Thursday, Jan 14, 2010 10:22.
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Angelo
Thursday, Jan 14, 2010 13:10 | Trackback URL
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Good to hear. Remember, this is just a temporary solution.



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AskAlex
Friday, Mar 12, 2010 22:49 | Trackback URL
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Sorry for this Bump BUT..............

CASPIAN?? Where in the source is this located?


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Prentice
Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 06:46 | Trackback URL
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Why would you want to edit the spam filter?


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Putzy
Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 09:44 | Trackback URL
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I believe CASPIAN is inside /scripts/php/functions.php, but I'm not entirely sure


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AskAlex
Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 14:37 | Trackback URL
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Why would you want to edit the spam filter?


No,I don't want to edit the spam filter I just want to see how it does.Whether it filters based on a bad list site, certain words, or past warnings.

And thanks Putzy.Got it, it's here.

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Is this actually deprecated?
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Last edited by: AskAlex - Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 14:53.

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Putzy
Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 21:00 | Trackback URL
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I believe it is deprecated yes, and is only there for legacy modules that have not been updated to the new hooks system yet.

I'm not entirely sure though, so can't give you a solid answer.


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