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Known  Yes you all say that you are developing this in your free time, but honestly there should be atleast a minimum of 5 updates atleast a week, and if not that then 2 a week to make sure that it is being updated from a security aspect.
On other side, thats ridiculous. 2 updates a week? That means one update every 3-4 days, good luck introducing or testing any large-scale changes with development window like that. Most projects have release cycle with minimal window of 2 weeks. Every two weeks devs sit on their project and see if development version is ready to release. If it is, they publish it, if not, they keep working and see in next 2 weeks. Only exceptions are being made for security or critical bugs.
Caleyjag This spare time stuff is bollocks. You've no enthusiasm for it. If you did, you'd find time.
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Yes I know that but I saying using that as in if they are so busy and do this only in their spare time, then I would understand a minimum of that, but if they developed this like it should be then your right, it would be developed in weeks or months depending on whats fixed/added, etc.
Hopefully this project will get starts or pickup by someone else, as honestly I really like this forum software from it's feel and everything else but I can't use it with all of the exploits and bugs that are in it. I mean if you aren't going to develop it, PLEASE, JUST PLEASE do with AEF (Advanced Electron Forum) did and make the software open source, so it can be developed by not only one person but by everyone (with the staff approving each new added part of it until they can fully develop it by themselves).
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AndyRixon NovaBoard is not dead.
Wanna re-consider this now? 
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Angelo AndyRixon NovaBoard is not dead.
Wanna re-consider this now?
Shhh, in few weeks one of "Managers" will notice this post and will come to explain to us that NB is not dead and they are only busy with their lifes.
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@Rafio i don't think so 
Take a look at James last post to this forum thread: Monday, Aug 15, 2011 14:06
so nearly "4" months have passed. The only true an loyal people to NovaBoard are thous of us who used Nova 1.2 - 1.3
As I said and will say to every so called "Developer" here Open Source projects have developers who have life's, family's and bills to pay. Yet they still have time to put into there Project. Look at MyBB, phpBB, UseBB there alive aye. And Nova is dead thanks to people like @James and the team of so called "Developers"
As a PHP developer my self I laugh at thous who bare and are not ashamed to call them selfs a developer but to me there no more then bunch of lost sheep's. A developer is a person who can adapt rapidly and work rapidly on projects with some to no help.
While Nova board so called developers working on 2.0 can't still release even a BETA prebuild I my self done many revisions on my forum which is build in PHP OOP using PHP 5.3.x and everything of latest standards. As a matter of fact I rewrote the forum to also work with ASP.Net so who can call them self a developer here? And this was done in period of 5 1/2 months by a "SINGLE DEVELOPER / PERSON" who also has work, girl friend, family and social life. Yet I could spare 2-3 hours of my life even if that meant i did not have extra 2-3 hours of sleep, but I choose to dedicate that time to something I enjoyed. And thats not ONE language like Nova 2.0 is based on "PHP" but it was "TWO" languages each far off from each other ASP and PHP. Yet I was able to do it and here we draw a big black line for nova.
I can sit here all night and point out how much of failed leader James is, but I will be a morally right person and going to leave him alone, his a failed leader and a person who failed him self. Leadership and ability to manage others is not something you easily learn its something that you gradually build truth life. I guess James was never a Leader type of person and probably always got managed by others and when he tried he realized he fails at it quite allot.
It is do to such personal failures and zero dedication that good forum softwares and good softwares in general die out.
A software can be a piece of barely working "crap" but if its backed by a team of dedicated members over course of revising the software will become a shining golden plate, as long as all try to make it and put effort, dedication and time into it. This is not the case for Nova, Nova went from growing Apple on a tree of Open Source branches to a dried up crisp eaten by worms, bugs and time. The downfall was not expected by anyone. Hell at that time I used Nova on all my sites and sites of my friends and others, seeing a potential in it backed by good leader/manager and a good team which left as they realized "James" was not so good as a leader, manager and dedicated person.
Well this is my opinion. I don't care if its not eye pleasing to people mentioned in it, but as one of human rights i can freely express my self and the way I view the world around me. In this case I choose to view failures of new Nova team as the old team left seeing that with James leadership anything will be driven into ground.
Way the go James
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pt.desu @Rafio i don't think so ...
IMHO NovaBoard failed cos it was taken over by people who dont code. If James or Andy could write code themselfs and really cared about project, there would be ongoing development... even if it was slow.
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And thats my point Rafio, the time it takes the team lead by 3 developers to write a forum software is absurd. So lets see 6 months and a beginner has learned PHP by them self. As I said I was able to write a custom board in PHP and then port it to ASP.Net in short time, does tell you something. Sure it mean that I stayed up for a while but aye, it was worth it in the end
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You dont have to tell me man, I made my own forum software in past, so I know what it takes to run such project.
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Rafio Angelo AndyRixon NovaBoard is not dead.
Wanna re-consider this now?
Shhh, in few weeks one of "Managers" will notice this post and will come to explain to us that NB is not dead and they are only busy with their lifes.
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pt.desu And thats my point Rafio, the time it takes the team lead by 3 developers to write a forum software is absurd. So lets see 6 months and a beginner has learned PHP by them self. As I said I was able to write a custom board in PHP and then port it to ASP.Net in short time, does tell you something. Sure it mean that I stayed up for a while but aye, it was worth it in the end
Well hopefully someone can fork this board software or take control of it, I did the same though too by using it most of the sites I run since I thought it truly did have a great dev team and would be on the top 5 free PHP forum software list.
Rafio You dont have to tell me man, I made my own forum software in past, so I know what it takes to run such project.
Honestly if that was in English I'd consider using it since it looks pretty promising.
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Honestly if that was in English I'd consider using it since it looks pretty promising.
Dont... it may look nice and all... but it was my first such project and it shows in code quality. Really, stay away from it
But... my next forum software will be developed in English... but I cant guarantee it will be free or anytime this year.
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Honestly if that was in English I'd consider using it since it looks pretty promising.
Dont... it may look nice and all... but it was my first such project and it shows in code quality. Really, stay away from it But... my next forum software will be developed in English... but I cant guarantee it will be free or anytime this year.
Well I can't anyways since I don't really have the time to translate it all and everything anyways.
Well let me know then and I'll be glad to help you test it out and support it if it looks good :]
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Novaboard is quite dead, as many people mentioned early. Yes, my English isn't very good. I'm one of the few, who spend amount of time to translate Novaboard to one of the EU languages-Bulgarian, also I made shoutbox to work with the current version of the Novaboard, because I though that there is MUCH potential in the Novaboard forum software. I'm very unhappy to see something like the current situation.
I have never seen James to do something really significant for the Novaboard project. I also noticed the lack of support some time ago.
My forum is one of the few Novaboard forums yet "alive". I've tested much ot the old novaboard addons and with the help of my dear friend I've made some of the broken addons workin' with the new version.
In the past six months there is no real progress, only empty promises. I'm not a coder, I know only HTML/CSS, never learned PHP, but for God, there is no way to achieve any progress without people who really know how to use properly PHP. I'm really disappointed and really want to know what would happen in the future? Will the be revived novabord or it would be really dead? If the second, I will abandon it. I have no time for empty hopes.
Novaboard is quite dead, as many people mentioned early. Yes, my English isn't very good. I'm one of the few, who spend amount of time to translate Novaboard to one of the EU languages-Bulgarian, also I made shoutbox to work with the current version of the Novaboard, because I though that there is MUCH potential in the Novaboard forum software. I'm very unhappy to see something like the current situation.
I have never seen James to do something really significant for the Novaboard project. I also noticed the lack of support some time ago.
My forum is one of the few Novaboard forums yet "alive". I've tested much ot the old novaboard addons and with the help of my dear friend I've made some of the broken addons workin' with the new version.
In the past six months there is no real progress, only empty promises. I'm not a coder, I know only HTML/CSS, never learned PHP, but for God, there is no way to achieve any progress without people who really know how to use properly PHP. I'm really disappointed and really want to know what would happen in the future? Will the be revived novabord or it would be really dead? If the second, I will abandon it. I have no time for empty hopes.
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Oh look, Novaboard 2 still aint there! ]:>
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I really want to know why the other my account is in the "Moderator approve" mode. What I have done? 4j2
I'm really unhappy to see that there is no real progress in this project more than 4months. In the time when I tested some of the addons for compatibility, and with help of my friend fixed some of the addons, that were not compatible with the new version, like shoutbox, I noticed that there is nothing new here.
Novaboard is quite dead for more than 4-5months and I really want to know WHEN there will be any progress in the Novaboard coding.
Also, I noticed the James's unability to manage such kind of project. I thought that there is potential in the Novaboard, so I'll be glad to see real progrss and development.
But..WHEN???
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Rafio: do not have and will not be. Project NovaBoard is DEAD.
Polish Support NovaBoard - NovaBoard.vot.pl
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I am extremely sorry for this project (and yes I am shocked I have to agree) is dead.
I am not trying to make excuses for this, but I have been away for a long time, due to myself moving house and having no internet, I have had no contact from James, nor from any other developers that is here, so again, I am sorry.
And to correct one of the commends made about me being able to code, I can code and have wrote my own forum software for fun and was never released (although I can release it if I really wanted) I make applications for a big forum software company in what little spare time I actually have now-a-days and I really do wish I could take this project over by my self and basically start a fresh with new team members that are willing to dedicated themselves to the project.
I understand that there is a communication issue here which I wish could be resolved, but in the current standing of the project this will not be fixed, unless I could take it over and start a fresh.
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AndyRixon I understand that there is a communication issue here which I wish could be resolved, but in the current standing of the project this will not be fixed, unless I could take it over and start a fresh.
If you are serious, dont bother with NovaBoard. Start coding, once you reach alpha, decide on name, register domain and annouce it there or on TheAdminZone for people to find you.
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I can't do it on my own though Rafio and it is no where near as feature fix as NB is, mine has only categories, forums, topics, and profiles, and thats it, its coded in PHP 4 so its extremely out-dated, I would much rather take over a product that has the features in it to start off with and build upon that.
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AndyRixon I can't do it on my own though Rafio and it is no where near as feature fix as NB is, mine has only categories, forums, topics, and profiles, and thats it, its coded in PHP 4 so its extremely out-dated, I would much rather take over a product that has the features in it to start off with and build upon that.
I have told you to start coding from scratch, not use any old code you may have.
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If I recall correctly it has been 2yr now since last major update of NovaBoard witch "WORKED" now we been getting NULL, VOID, EMPTY, CRAP, SHIT, FULL OUT BS, promises of something called NovaBoard 2, well I been waiting for UseBB 2 for years now, and its same NULL, VOID, EMPTY, CRAP, SHIT, FULL OUT BS as we are getting here, but the only difference work on UseBB 1 did not stop and it looks very nice, sure lags avatar upload feature but that can be coded in personally. Now lets see 2 weeks of work and I am getting a PHP based micro CMS, 2yr of Work from multiple developers and noting. James just post on the main page in big fat h1 letters "SORRY WE FAILED AND DO TO OUT FAILURE THE PROJECT IS D.E.A.D!!!!!!" and stop feeding people with rubbish BS.
I guess it is time to FORK the project, which seems to be allowed under Artistic license
Edit: Going over Artistic License 2.0 on OpenSource.org I confirmed that you indeed can fork , all I have to do is hold original copyright and credits and thats all, other then typical modification commenting. Aldo I will fork it into Common Development and Distribution License 1.0 (CDDL-1.0) or possibly MIT/x11 class license.
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The project is officially dead. And guess what I will go beyond my way to credit all of developers from 1.3 build of Nova Board where JAMES and the rest of so called "Developers" with degrees where not present. There for not violating the Artistic Licence and literally "slapping" some people across the face with a paddle. Now the reason I am saying this is that I started Fork-ing of 1.3.x source code. Now I am going to be an ass-hole and licence the thing under CDDL 1.0 with a nice notice: SOURCE CODE CAN'T AND MAY NOT BE USED BY "JAMES MILLIGAN" IN SUCH EVENT SUCH ACTION WILL CATEGORIZE AS BREACH OF TERMS CAUSING IMMEDIATE LICENCE, PATENT AND ROYALTY-FREE LICENCE TERMINATION. IN EVENT OF SUCH TERMINATION THE SOURCE CODE MAY NOT BE PORTED, FORKED, COPY OR IN ANY-WAY ALTERED. ACTIONS TO IN ANY WAY TO GAIN MODIFIED REDISTRIBUTION OF ORIGINAL SOURCE CODE WILL BE CATEGORIZED AS ILLEGAL AND LEGAL MEASURES WILL BE TAKEN. ANY 3RD PERSON WHO IN ANY WAY PROVIDES THE SOURCE CODE TO THE NAME MENTIONED ABOVE "JAMES MILLIGAN" SHALL HAVE THERE LICENCE TERMINATED AS WELL UNDER BREACH OF LICENCE AND ITS GOVERNING TERMS.
I will assure to include this into the licence as one of the conditions required to use the forked source code. Have fun James as there is no "snow ball in hell" chance I will in any way allow you to gain use of forked source code. And if others try to be smart asses and provide it to you, they will have there licence terminated as well which is win - win type of warfare for me here, as I do have the upper legal hand... studying Law does go a long way does it not.
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It's a shame this project never went further than when I was developing it.
One of the nice things about NovaBoard was that it never intended to overload the software with crap. The plugin system it had was something extremely clever (it was like Wordpress) but for some reason James took that feature out. Along with remote install of themes. And umm... I *think* automatically informing you of updates via the Admin CP (not that it mattered in the end!)
If I had the time to come back and take over, I would. But unfortunately I've moved on to other projects - which actually uses NovaBoard (well, the bare bones!) as the framework for the entire website.
I think that shows just how extensible the software really is if it can go from being a simple forum to a fully featured website.
For those that wish to see just how far NovaBoard went after I took the code and developed it further visit http://www.supportsinteractive.com and view the concept PDF on the countdown page.
It's a fully featured social media platform, capable of automatically importing your Youtube videos, importing and manipulating Facebook items, a multi-user chat service (like MSN, Yahoo etc) integrated on the website itself, Private Messages between multiple recipients, and a whole host of other features. This is what NovaBoard COULD have been!
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James has failed multiple times to accept my offer of taking over this project, with how the current team stands, nothing will change, I want to make this work, I want to get new people on board, but with out James accepting my offer I won't even modify and release it as my own.
The difference is, I want it to work, but clearly no one else does.
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AndyRixon The difference is, I want it to work, but clearly no one else does.
James wants to manage, not work
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Rafio AndyRixon I understand that there is a communication issue here which I wish could be resolved, but in the current standing of the project this will not be fixed, unless I could take it over and start a fresh.
If you are serious, dont bother with NovaBoard. Start coding, once you reach alpha, decide on name, register domain and annouce it there or on TheAdminZone for people to find you.
Honestly just start coding it from what you have, if possible James should even give you the project, yes he can have some rights as being the original creator of NovaBoard, but his time of saying what you can and can't do needs to stop (else this project will just be dead, and turn to nothing).
pt.desu If I recall correctly it has been 2yr now since last major update of NovaBoard witch "WORKED" now we been getting NULL, VOID, EMPTY, CRAP, SHIT, FULL OUT BS, promises of something called NovaBoard 2, well I been waiting for UseBB 2 for years now, and its same NULL, VOID, EMPTY, CRAP, SHIT, FULL OUT BS as we are getting here, but the only difference work on UseBB 1 did not stop and it looks very nice, sure lags avatar upload feature but that can be coded in personally. Now lets see 2 weeks of work and I am getting a PHP based micro CMS, 2yr of Work from multiple developers and noting. James just post on the main page in big fat h1 letters "SORRY WE FAILED AND DO TO OUT FAILURE THE PROJECT IS D.E.A.D!!!!!!" and stop feeding people with rubbish BS. I guess it is time to FORK the project, which seems to be allowed under Artistic license Edit: Going over Artistic License 2.0 on OpenSource.org I confirmed that you indeed can fork , all I have to do is hold original copyright and credits and thats all, other then typical modification commenting. Aldo I will fork it into Common Development and Distribution License 1.0 (CDDL-1.0) or possibly MIT/x11 class license.
If you fork this, let us know what the name of it will be, such as giving us the domain name. If you can push this software any further then what it's at right now, I'll honestly be glad to test it out and tell you any and all bugs that are found with it. I do honestly like this forum software from it's usage, to it's features, but it has HUGE security problems at this moment and it's lacking the updates and some features I was it had.
Rafio AndyRixon The difference is, I want it to work, but clearly no one else does.
James wants to manage, not work
Sadly this is very true :/
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